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THE ART OF BUYING SECOND HAND
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THE ART OF BUYING SECOND HAND

One thing I've learned:
DON'T post a Wanted ad.
And if you do - DON'T state the desired price.

Sellers don't take into account that you specifically state the model and the price you want to pay for it.

They also take advantage of the situation and decide the price themselves, hoping that you MUST have what they have, and pay far above the actual value.

The trick is to wait until someone posts a For Sale ad, and then YOU decide the price and take control.
Shared knowledge provides increased knowledge
If we all share everything we have, we all have everything
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KEYBOARDS, SYNTHS & MODULES I HAVE HAD AND HAVE
Casio CTK 811-ex ||| Roland EXR-7 76 ||| Yamaha DGX-620 ||| Yamaha PSR-550 ||| Yamaha PSR-S700 ||| Korg Pa800 ||| Korg Pa3X 61 ||| Deebach XMS-Pro ||| Ketron Ajamsonic ||| Casio WK-7500 ||| Yamaha Tyros5 61 ||| vArranger ||| Ketron Audya5 61 ||| Yamaha PSR S950 ||| Solton X8 Chromatic ||| Yamaha Tyros4 10th Anniversary ||| Korg Pa4X 61 ||| Roland BK-7m ||| Technics KN-6000 ||| Technics KN-7000 ||| Roli Seaboard RISE 49 ||| Deebach MAX Plus ||| Yamaha Genos ||| Korg Pa700 ||| Korg Kronos2 73 ||| Tyros4 61 ||| Deebach BlackBox ||| Korg Pa2X Pro ||| Yamaha A3000 ||| Ghenos Plus ||| Medeli AKX10 ||| Korg Nautilus 73 ||| Yamaha DGX-670 ||| Korg Krome EX-88 ||| Korg OASYS 76 Sondius-XG version ||| Korg Pa5X 76 (Pythagoras Tuned) ||| Yamaha Tyros1 ||| Ketron Audya 76 (Own developed OS) ||| Yamaha PSR-3000 ||| Yamaha 9000 Pro ||| Yamaha MODX M8 ||| Korg Grandstage X ||| Roland Juno-D7 ||| Korg Kronos 1 73 (Pythagoras Tuned)

MY PA EQUIPMENT NON-ACTIVE AND ACTIVE
Aune S6 32 bit/384 kb DAC ||| Topping USB Isolator ||| MOTU 32 bit Audio Interface ||| TEYUN Q26 32 bit/384 kb Audio Interface ||| FM Acoustics FM 300A Power amp ||| FM Acoustics FM 255 Resolution Series Pre amp ||| MBL 6010 Pre Amp ||| STAX SR-L300 (Lambda) electrostatic headphones with STAX SRM-252S Amplifier ||| beyerdynamic T70 headphones (without pads) ||| Baffle horns equipped with Seas Exotic 8" fullrange units ||| JBL horns with Compression Planar membranes ||| Fountek NeoPro 5i (Special Edition) ribbon tweeters with Compression Planar membranes ||| Hexagonal subwoofer with 12 pieces Push&Pull coupled Seas Prestige 8" units, 1 item 10" slave unit and built-in XTZ power amplifiers & Cambridge Azur 640A as pre amplifier ||| Yamaha HS-5 active monitors connected to all keyboards
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I wish we could do this in this country, but places like Market place and Ebay ask for description and price, unfortunately there are a lot of scammers who put reduced price on keyboards etc to lure customers in.
This brings the price of keyboards down and sadly thats the starting place for negotiation
There should be some legislation that show price trends so everything is clear, but Marketplace in particular don`t care.
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(03-20-2026, 01:54 PM)whitecolin1 Wrote: I wish we could do this in this country, but places like Market place and Ebay ask for description and price, unfortunately there are a lot of scammers who put reduced price on keyboards etc to lure customers in.
This brings the price of keyboards down and sadly thats the starting place for negotiation
There should be some legislation that show price trends so everything is clear, but Marketplace in particular don`t care.


They ask for the price here too, but the buyer has the option to leave the window blank.

It's a good idea to have some legislation that shows price trends - second-hand markets have statistics that should have been required to be used by the country's authorities.

In fact, AI can be of great help in finding a realistic value - I tested with Pa5X, and here is the answer i got:


AI Overview

Based on market data from March 2026, a used Korg Pa5X 76-key arranger workstation bought new in 2022 is generally valued between $3,800 and $4,500 USD (£2,900 - £3,600 GBP in Europe), depending on its condition and included accessories.

Key Resale Information (As of March 2026)

* Mint/Excellent Used Condition: Listings are appearing around $3,800 - $4,200.
* Open Box/Demo Deal: Often sold by dealers for $4,100 - $4,500.
* Market Price Trends: While the initial MSRP was high in 2022, the 76-key version currently sees used prices holding relatively well for a 4-year-old digital instrument, largely due to its "top-tier" status and continued updates.

Factors Affecting Your Value:

Condition: Mint condition with original packaging fetches higher prices.
Speakers: The optional PaAS MK2 amplification system adds significant value, often selling for over £500 ($650+) on its own.
Location: Resale prices in Europe (GBP/EUR) are currently competitive, with some UK dealers listing used units for around £2,900.
Note: The PA5X does not have built-in speakers, so selling it with the dedicated PaAS speaker system increases its appeal.


This answer shows that AI is a good tool for this, because the suggested price is identical to the actual price level in Norway's second-hand market for the Pa5X 76.
Shared knowledge provides increased knowledge
If we all share everything we have, we all have everything
Every theory is only a hypothesis until it is practically proven

KEYBOARDS, SYNTHS & MODULES I HAVE HAD AND HAVE
Casio CTK 811-ex ||| Roland EXR-7 76 ||| Yamaha DGX-620 ||| Yamaha PSR-550 ||| Yamaha PSR-S700 ||| Korg Pa800 ||| Korg Pa3X 61 ||| Deebach XMS-Pro ||| Ketron Ajamsonic ||| Casio WK-7500 ||| Yamaha Tyros5 61 ||| vArranger ||| Ketron Audya5 61 ||| Yamaha PSR S950 ||| Solton X8 Chromatic ||| Yamaha Tyros4 10th Anniversary ||| Korg Pa4X 61 ||| Roland BK-7m ||| Technics KN-6000 ||| Technics KN-7000 ||| Roli Seaboard RISE 49 ||| Deebach MAX Plus ||| Yamaha Genos ||| Korg Pa700 ||| Korg Kronos2 73 ||| Tyros4 61 ||| Deebach BlackBox ||| Korg Pa2X Pro ||| Yamaha A3000 ||| Ghenos Plus ||| Medeli AKX10 ||| Korg Nautilus 73 ||| Yamaha DGX-670 ||| Korg Krome EX-88 ||| Korg OASYS 76 Sondius-XG version ||| Korg Pa5X 76 (Pythagoras Tuned) ||| Yamaha Tyros1 ||| Ketron Audya 76 (Own developed OS) ||| Yamaha PSR-3000 ||| Yamaha 9000 Pro ||| Yamaha MODX M8 ||| Korg Grandstage X ||| Roland Juno-D7 ||| Korg Kronos 1 73 (Pythagoras Tuned)

MY PA EQUIPMENT NON-ACTIVE AND ACTIVE
Aune S6 32 bit/384 kb DAC ||| Topping USB Isolator ||| MOTU 32 bit Audio Interface ||| TEYUN Q26 32 bit/384 kb Audio Interface ||| FM Acoustics FM 300A Power amp ||| FM Acoustics FM 255 Resolution Series Pre amp ||| MBL 6010 Pre Amp ||| STAX SR-L300 (Lambda) electrostatic headphones with STAX SRM-252S Amplifier ||| beyerdynamic T70 headphones (without pads) ||| Baffle horns equipped with Seas Exotic 8" fullrange units ||| JBL horns with Compression Planar membranes ||| Fountek NeoPro 5i (Special Edition) ribbon tweeters with Compression Planar membranes ||| Hexagonal subwoofer with 12 pieces Push&Pull coupled Seas Prestige 8" units, 1 item 10" slave unit and built-in XTZ power amplifiers & Cambridge Azur 640A as pre amplifier ||| Yamaha HS-5 active monitors connected to all keyboards
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