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COMING SOON: PROOF OF POOR MIXING AND ITS CONSEQUENCES - Chello - 01-28-2024
COMING SOON: PROOF OF POOR MIXING AND ITS CONSEQUENCES
After editing Pa5X's internal styles up to several times over almost 18 months, I have experienced the consequences of what I call bad and incorrect mixing:
What are the consequences of most styles having an average level of 110 ?
If, for example, you add Reverb Room and Stereo Compressor only to drums and perc, this has negative consequences for ALL other tracks in the form of many dB reduction in their levels.
These must either be adjusted up by a corresponding number of dB, or drums and perc reduced by a corresponding amount.
If only it had been THAT easy.
The level of all other tracks apart from drums and perc is anyway many dB lower than the original, although the level for drums and perc is reduced.
This means that these must be adjusted up from 110, and even if they are adjusted to max level 127, this is often not enough - there is not enough headroom.
Moreover, such levels should be avoided, as the danger of distortion is imminent and indeed - this distortion is actually heard clearly through my PA system.
The only professional correct way to solve this is to reduce the average level of ALL tracks to 70 to 80 (or maybe as far down as 63, which is the middle value).
This involves several months of work for 8 hours each day.
I am preparing detailed evidence for these claims, where I measure the number of dB reduction for each track, and take a screenshot of the highest result; both for original tracks and edited tracks.
Finally, all tracks are presented where the average levels have been reduced to 70 to 80, but where the output level is still the same as the original.
One can ask the following legitimate question:
Have responsible sound engineers at Korg previously worked at Yamaha ?
Because almost all of Yamaha's models since the Tyros4 have been mixed this way - the only exception I know of is the DGX-670, which is properly mixed professionally; everyone else is badly mixed, probably also Genos2, because Genos1 was one of the worst.
RE: COMING SOON: PROOF OF POOR MIXING AND ITS CONSEQUENCES - musicalmemoriesuk - 01-28-2024
I’m seriously coming to the conclusion that arranger keyboards of today are much like the early home computers of the 80s which some were given to you in kit form and it was down to you to build them. But then of course there wasn’t really access to the internet, so the only information was in book form or magazines.
This is definitely the case with the arrangers of today you are given the kit (The Arranger itself) and everything else once you set it up is down to you the end user.
RE: COMING SOON: PROOF OF POOR MIXING AND ITS CONSEQUENCES - Chello - 01-28-2024
(01-28-2024, 02:17 PM)musicalmemoriesuk Wrote: I’m seriously coming to the conclusion that arranger keyboards of today are much like the early home computers of the 80s which some were given to you in kit form and it was down to you to build them. But then of course there wasn’t really access to the internet, so the only information was in book form or magazines.
This is definitely the case with the arrangers of today you are given the kit (The Arranger itself) and everything else once you set it up is down to you the end user.
I see the similarity with your comparison.
Everything is mixed worse than it was before; but the tendency has escalated in the last 10-15 years.