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+------ Thread: OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE (/Thread-OPINION-OF-PA5X-AFTER-7-MONTHS-OF-USE)
OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE - Chello - 03-08-2023
OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE
New bugs are constantly appearing, but these are unproblematic in relation to my use.
One thing can be established:
The Pa5X is the best of all when it comes to styles from midi - many styles that have not worked with any other models work brilliantly, and the Pa5X is more stable within midi than any others.
It is very rare that the keyboard has to be restarted as a result of mixing different formats, while both Pa2X, Pa3X and Pa4X were a nightmare in this respect; they had to be restarted all the time.
The Pa series has always had problems with strings from midi, but the Pa5X has absolutely no problems.
In a short time I have made over 70 styles which are good enough, while several are exceptionally good.
This proves that Tyros4 has met his master, as Tyros4 has been the master in this area.
Pa5X is the new champion.
RE: OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE - whitecolin1 - 03-09-2023
Although i wouldn`t wouldn`t argue with your midi assessment as some of your styles are grest.
But for most its not about that .My engineer friend tells me that there have been more than a few returned due to the poor instruction manual and inability too use the keyboard the way they want and breakdowns.
I spoke to the Korg rep who promised a collaboration and have nothing since,, also the forums are littered with lack of communication from Korg.
I have a guy who contacts me regularly moaning of faults and things he can`t do to the point i dread his calls.
so my assessment of the Korg are somewhat different.
Yrs the Korg has great sounds and styles
but they aren`t consistently across all styles and voices
The basic functions seem easy but saving sets sts is a pain and shoudn`t need to go through other functions to achieve
The balances between style voicing and in particular pads ,are all over the place, again requiring internal tweaking.
The communication to korg and the customer is poor their is a new voice set which again is heavily edited with reverb and
atmospheric sounds ,
neither the sound set or new manuals 1547 pages were communicated despite being set up to the Korg newsletter
Thank goodness for Chello.
Namm has said they have some new innovation products keyboards etc from Yamaha, which may indicate a new arranger
I still see the Korg as a flawed Diamond, full of potential but the aftercare is woeful and leaves the door open to other manufacturers taking advantage
Just to reiterate James sentiments of very little participation from members other than videos.
I would love to know what pushes peoples buttons other than free content ?
i like Chellos views and slaughter bench
I like the tutorials in the group , how toos
I would like maybe a interactive forum for debate (live)
This is without doubt the most knowledgeable group, that just needs more people posting
RE: OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE - Chello - 03-09-2023
@Colin
Thank you for your detailed comment.
As you clearly indicate, most users of Pa5X are more advanced than others, and work deeper into the system than normal.
There is no doubt that existing manuals are very deficient, plus the many bugs block many doors for advanced use.
When Korg is also non-existent in follow-up service, this effectively reduces the Pa5X's popularity.
The diamond remains uncut.
Certain basic functions are an illogical nightmare, and editing Keyboard sets is one of them.
This also applies to editing Pads as well.
I am trying to find a solution and have found one but need time to make sure it works.
Hopefully this will end up with one or more tutorials.
Thank you for appreciating my views, slaughter bench, tutorials and how to do.
RE: OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE - musicalmemoriesuk - 03-09-2023
I know you have your paid membership area. But if an area was made available only when members have contributed so many posts, so you only get to access certain areas according to how active you are.
Yes this Pa5x is a great Arranger from what Chello has posted, and taking on board the comments by Colin it’s pretty bad that there is no representative from Korg actually saying if or what they are doing to address any problems. It’s alright doing the sell sell sell but if there’s no support to back it up people will speak with their feet and go elsewhere.
As you remember from my previous post on the Tyros4 premium packs being re released for an Arranger that is no longer in production is a company that is actually listening to it’s existing users, yes a lot of people will have moved onto newer models but there are a lot of people purchasing older models of Arrangers that were originally too expensive for them.
RE: OPINION OF PA5X AFTER 7 MONTHS OF USE - Chello - 03-09-2023
@Musical Memories
Many thanks for your input, which gave me an idea to try something new regarding contribution and access.
The basic setup might work best - it's been a while since I used this, but I'll look into it again.
Today's production conditions mean that more and more people are buying older top models, which is actually quite reasonable; not least because development has been fairly stagnant for the past 30 years.
The only challenge will be obtaining spare parts.
My OASYS is one of those for which it is difficult to find parts, but you always have the option of buying an extra one.
OASYS has the best keybed on the market.
I still haven't started the restoration, but have got hold of RAM and Deoxit cleaning spray (Deoxit costs €50..!).
It's impossible to know if I'll need to replace any cards until Deoxit has been running for a while, and I'll start the restoration work soon.